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Re: [alpha] INSIGHT - VENEZUELA - Concerns over military dissent, PdVSA reshuffling rumors - VZ301

Released on 2012-03-01 04:00 GMT

Email-ID 107541
Date 1970-01-01 01:00:00
am also following up with the source on who within the upper military
ranks is asking Chavez to step donw


From: "Korena Zucha"
To: "Reva Bhalla"
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:46:15 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [alpha] INSIGHT - VENEZUELA - Concerns over military
dissent, PdVSA reshuffling rumors - VZ301

got it, thanks.

On 8/15/11 9:45 AM, Reva Bhalla wrote:

wanted to make sure you saw this


From: "Benjamin Preisler"
To: "Alpha List"
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:20:53 AM
Subject: [alpha] INSIGHT - VENEZUELA - Concerns over military dissent,
PdVSA reshuffling rumors - VZ301

SOURCE DESCRIPTION: well-connected source in Caracas
PUBLICATION: Yes - these are responses to a client question
SPECIAL HANDLING: send to Alpha and Korena Zucha

Q tal? Any news on the Ramirez/Maduro PdVSA rumors we were chatting
about earlier?

(referring to rumors that PdVSA president Rafael Ramirez will soon be
replaced by FM Nicolas Maduro)

I was checking up last night. It is something that has been discussed
and was a**filtereda** by a credible source.

However, it is not something that is going to happen right now. The
issue is that el presidente is very aware of the fact that RR has been
lying to him.

client question-

Hey there are a bunch of noises coming from the military and chavez this
week about military loyalty and subversion by the oppositions of the
military under the Imperial Direction (guess who).

This stuff is important and getting a lot of press in the papers.

First, a**dona**t trust statementsa**.

I should add that in our specific situation things are not pure black or
pure white. We have a lot of a**nuancesa**. Military are not a solid
block like Chavism is not a solid and homogeneus block either.

Within the military, you have the ones that have very much benefited by
the Presidente (former companions of promotion or coup da**A(c)tat

High ranks that have enjoyed the economic benefits of this
administration tend to be really concerned.

A. They need to enjoy their fortunes here, where else can they go to
make so much money? So, they can either:

A. Try to scare the opposition, what they are doing through
statements and threats.

A. They can negotiate a*| what some of them are already doing.

Another group within the Army Forces are those that have expressed
discomfort by the presence and power of Cubans within the military

You have as well the military sector that favors right and not left
political approaches.

Something is up:

1) the opp has no hooks in the military so that is a lie

Military reactions are not really so tied to opp hooks. This is what HCF
makes believe through his statements. There are enough reasons to find
unrest within the military as to think they need to be a**enchanted by
the oppa**. This doesna**t mean that opp is not capitalizing the

2) if there is a loyalty issue its internal

Yes, there is an internal loyalty issue. Tiredness, Fear of future and
of losing privileges.

3) The military said they would only recognize ChA!vez, as the C&C so
guess the Constitution and the 2012 elections are a moot point!

This is the a**scary manipulative speecha*|. But people dona**t buy this
so easily. There is more concern for potential militias reactions
(untrained and fanatics).

4) Chavez just announced 2 B in loans for more guns BECAUSE HE WILL NEED

What is going on and why now when Chavez is suppose to be on the mend
and his popularity is up and he has more access to $$$ enhancing
fluidity of capital?

He needs to keep the idea that the country is going to be invaded. He
needs to keep in the popular imaginary that we need to get ready to
defend the fatherland from the enemy. That helps him to keep his
follower a**togethera**.

Why all the fuss?

HCF is worried. Unrest in military barracks is a fact. Rumors that
some high ranks military might have asked the Presidente. to withdraw
from office due to his illness, are spreading since last week. As I
said before, they dona**t want to lose his a**power sharea**.


Benjamin Preisler
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