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RE: Plane Crash

Released on 2012-03-08 09:00 GMT

Email-ID 1136251
Date 2010-04-10 18:59:27
FWIW - Comrade J (the highest ranking Soviet defector in history)
confirmed his services assassination of Pres. Zia in Pakistan.


From: []
On Behalf Of Matthew Gertken
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:56 AM
To: Analyst List
Subject: Re: Plane Crash
well it is rather suspicious

Lauren Goodrich wrote:

The conspiracy theorists will hate that the Russians get to lead this

Marko Papic wrote:

Note that this all comes from the Russian side... We won't know until
we find the Black Box and I have a feeling that Russians are going to
stall on giving it to the Poles. This could be a start of another
diplomatic incident. Just a heads up on that.

OR, Putin could continue his charm offensive, especially if the
apparently dumb arrogant Polish pilot really is at fault (disobeying
traffic control order?! So freaking Polish... "A Russian is not going
to tell Polish presidential plane what to do!" sort of a thing), then
it gives Putin an opportunity to act magnanimously again.

Either way, Russia WINS big time. Which is becoming quite a trend.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wilson"
To: "Analyst List"
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:49:18 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
Subject: Re: Plane Crash

A few articles

On 4/10/2010 11:46 AM, Fred Burton wrote:

Has there been further details on the final few minutes of the plane
crash? Pilot contact w/the tower?

Russia: Kaczynski's pilot ignored ground command
10 Apr 2010 15:07:51 GMT
Source: Reuters

MOSCOW, April 10 (Reuters) - The pilot of the plane which crashed on
Saturday, killing Polish President Lech Kaczynski, ignored several
orders not to land from Russian air traffic control, a Russian
military official was quoted as saying.

Kaczynski, his wife and at least 95 others were killed when the aged
Tupolev Tu-154 they were travelling in crashed in a forest while
trying to land near the Russian city of Smolensk.

"At a distance of 2.5 kilometres (1.5 miles) the head of air traffic
control ascertained that the crew had increased the speed of the
descent," the first deputy chief of the Russian Air Force's general
staff, Alexander Alyoshin, was quoted as saying by Interfax news

"The head of the air traffic control group gave a command to the crew
to put the aircraft into the horizontal position and when the crew did
not implement this order, several times gave orders to divert to an
alternative airport," he said.

"Despite this, the crew continued the descent. Unfortunately this
ended in tragedy," he said. (Reporting by Dmitry Sergeyev, editing by
Tim Pearce)

Pilot error may have caused Polish crash-local spokesman
10 Apr 2010 09:38:33 GMT

SMOLENSK, Russia, April 10 (Reuters) - Pilot error was a possible
reason for the plane crash that killed Polish President Lech Kaczynski
and central bank governor Slawomir Skrzypek on Saturday, a spokesman
for the Smolensk local government said.

"The pilot was advised to land in Minsk, but decided to land in
Smolensk," said the spokesman, Andrei Yevseyenkov. The plane crashed
in thick fog about 2 km (1.3 miles) from the airport in the western
Russian region of Smolensk. (Reporting by Lidia Kelly, writing by
Robin Paxton, editing by Tim Pearce

Both "black boxes" found at Polish air crash site - Russian minister

Both "black boxes" (flight data recorders) of Polish President Lech
Kaczynski's Tu-154 aircraft, which crashed near Smolensk on 10 April,
have been found at the site of the crash, Interfax news agency
reported Emergencies Ministry Sergey Shoygu as saying on the same day.

"The flight data recorders, both telemetry and speech, have been found
at the scene of the disaster. The analysis of them, which should shed
light on the causes of the disaster, has already begun," he was quoted
as saying.

"The trajectory of the aircraft's flight, which I have now gone over
twice, suggests that the deviation from the runway was not only in
terms of height, but also laterally at least 150 m," he was quoted as

According to Shoygu's information, the aircraft was completely
destroyed and fragments of the plane are distributed over quite a
large area, the report said.

"The destruction, by all appearances, begun from the left wing, which
has been found 500 m. from the remains of the fuselage," Shoygu said.

Asked by Polish journalists whether the reason for the crash was the
inadequate length of the runway, Shoygu replied that the Severnyy
aerodrome could receive aircraft of any class.

Source: Interfax news agency, Moscow, in Russian 1400 gmt 10 Apr 10

BBC Mon Alert FS1 FsuPol EU1 EuroPol hb

Polish leader's plane crash unlikely related to state of airfield -

Deputy Commander of the Russian Air Force for Air Defence Lt-Gen
Sergey Razygrayev has said that he does not believe the crash of the
Tu-154 aircraft carrying a Polish delegation headed by Polish
President Lech Kaczynski on 10 April was related to the condition of
the airfield, Interfax news agency reported that day. The plane had
crashed when coming into land at Severnyy airfield near Smolensk.

"The Severnyy aerodrome is first class and I don't think that this
disaster is somehow connected with it [the aerodrome]," the general
was reported as telling Ekho Moskvy radio on the same day.

But he stressed that "information on this issue is quite scant, and it
is still too early to draw any conclusion", the report said.

Source: Interfax news agency, Moscow, in Russian 0828 gmt 10 Apr 10

BBC Mon Alert FS1 FsuPol EU1 EuroPol hb

Polish president's body 'found' in crash wreckage - source

The body of Polish President Lech Kaczynski may have been found in the
wreckage of the plane that crashed earlier on Saturday in western
Russia, a highly-placed police source told RIA Novosti.

Speaking from the scene of the clean-up operation, the source said
however that "additional tests, including DNA," would be needed to
identify many of the bodies.

All 97 people on board died when a plane carrying Kaczynski, his wife,
and a delegation of senior officials crashed in thick fog while
attempting to land at Smolensk airport.

Kaczynski was on his way to a ceremony in nearby Katyn to commemorate
the memory of some 20,000 Polish officers killed by Soviet secret
police during World War Two.

Lauren Goodrich
Director of Analysis
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