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Re: MORE Re: INSIGHT - AUSTRALIA - Independents split - CN65

Released on 2012-02-29 14:00 GMT

Email-ID 1192707
Date 2010-09-08 20:15:00
I thought the original Singtel Optus-Huawei bid was killed in 2009.=C2=A0
ASIO (Aussie intelligence) was investigating Huawei at the time.=C2=A0 Is
there a new bid?=C2=A0 (forgive me if I missed the discussion).=C2=A0

Also, this has been Huawei's new strategy since a bunch of their bids got
killed in the 2000s.=C2=A0 They partner with major local telecoms
companies--like they're trying to do with Motorola in the US now.=C2=A0
Lena Bell wrote:

Jennifer Richmond wrote:

The issue is that China's Huawei is bidding to do part of the NBN, and
the Labour government is "turning a blind eye" to it, according to
source.=C2=A0 Source says, "They just refuse to believe what they've
been told by the guys who know. The whole scheme is flawed. They're
going to spend A$43 billion on this for a population of 22 million.
That means almost A$2,000 per person. This just can't be made to work
at anything like affordable costs to the consumer. That might be
driving them into the arms of Huawei."

On 9/7/2010 11:19 AM, Matt Gertken wrote:

Chris and I were just discussing this. the plan is a national funded
and controlled fiber optic broadband network. The security issue has
not received nearly as much debate or discussion as the political
debates about cost and competitiveness, even though it was
frequently referred to during the China-Google debates. The
criticism by some activists has been that Oz will have complete
control over information. The complaint by national security types
has been that a foreign sponsored hacker (such as China) would
access a gold mine by breaking into this network, and that it should
be coupled with a more comprehensive cyber-security plan.

we need more info about it but here is the Oz House of Reps' latest
report on cyber crime which was oft-cited in questions relating to
this: =

essentially the security risk argument is that a centrally
administered broadband network would be more vulnerable to foreign

Of course will defer to Jen's source on this and would very much
like to hear more details/specifics (or links to places to find
them) about the security risks.

Peter Zeihan wrote:

how is the NBN a security risk?

On 9/7/2010 9:44 AM, Antonia Colibasanu wrote:

= National Broadband Network

Jennifer Richmond
China Director, Stratfor
US Mobile: (512) 422-9335
China Mobile: (86) 15801890731

Hi (new OZ ADP) very interesting comment about security issues...
definite split in the community about the costs, but a lot of
Australians see it as a nation building imperative. The cost is high,
but it's being compared to the railroads infrastructure (how that
radically changed things), and something that is necessary.

Matt, don't think Huawei is bidding (?) do you mean investing? (no press
about this back home)
Even if they did, the government would be very unlikely to ban
investment... create too many waves.

Also, in July Huawei joined forces with RMIT (a uni in Melbourne) to
create a Next Generation Tech Training Centre (will train 1000 students
over the next 3 years). Jobs out of this.
I think it just launched its first Android phone in Oz this week too.

Interestingly, Chinese-owned operator Asia Netcom used to provide
services for OZ embassies...


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