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Re: [alpha] INSIGHT -- Several issues about Brazil - BR 707

Released on 2012-03-13 09:00 GMT

Email-ID 120362
Date 2011-09-07 22:57:06
regarding the Brasiguayos and Brazil breaking away from the tradition of
avoiding hard decisions...
Can you elaborate what type of decisions he was referring to? What course
of action Brazil might take and what would be the tipping point? I know
that up until now Lugo hasn't been able to control the issue in Paraguay
and there is still quite a bit of tensions between locals
(Paraguayan/guarani) and Brazilians, those of Brazilian descent. Would
Brazil need to act before Lugo is replaced in 2013?


From: "Paulo Gregoire"
To: "watchofficer"
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 3:49:27 PM
Subject: INSIGHT -- Several issues about Brazil - BR 707

CODE: BR 707
ATTRIBUTION: Confederation Partner
SOURCE DESCRIPTION: Chief analyst of a webiste in Brazil especialized in
Brazilian military intelligence and defense policy
PUBLICATION: if useful

I had lunch with our confed partner. We talked about several issues, I
will start from some of the issues that Karen had requested about.
Source said that the govt will have to import ethanol because due to the
bad sugar cane harvest and that sugar prices went up many sugar mills
preferred selling sugar than using it for ethanol. The govt had also to
decrease the level of ethanol in the gasoline mixture because there is a
lack of ethanol in the domestic market. The govt, however, has decided to
give tax exemption to sugar mills and decrease the cost in order to use
the sugar cane for the ethanol production. He thinks this is temporary,
this shortage of ethanol occurred because of the bad harvest and high
price of sugar in the international market, but he believes the govt will
continue supporting the ethanol production and next year if everything
occurs fine with the sugar cane harvest they will not have problems in
supplying the domestic market and then also be able to export to other
The relationship between Rousseff and the business community is good. He
said that for the bankers the interest rate of 12% is still very good for
them to make pretty good money and the big businesses in Brazil tend to
support more inflationary policies as they want to sell and grow. They
were the ones who have been pressuring the govt to decrease interest
Source talked to the Argentine Defense Minister Arturo Puricelli about the
possible cooperation projects between Brazil and Argentina. Source said
the most advanced one is the production of the KC 390 airplane which parts
of the airplane are being produced in Cordoba Argentina and the rest in
Brazil by Embraer. Source said that Argentina is interesting in
participating in the production of the armored vehicle Guarani, but Brazil
said that not it is too late as this Brazilian along with the company
Iveco are already in the latest stages in the development of this tank.
Another joint production that that is making progress between both
countries is the Gaucho vehicle, which source said that it is a piece of
shit but it will be good enough to sell it and make some money. The joint
space agency is something both countries have an interested in moving
One interesting thing we discussed was BrazilA's relationship with the
China. I asked him why in his opinion there are so many people in the
press, politicians, academia and even some businesses in Brazil who tend
to call China a strategic partner if Brazil mostly sells iron ore to them
and also have conflicting interests like an enlargement of the UN security
council that could include Brazil and Japan. Source told me I am not
saying anything, just look at the my hand, his hand was showing money. I
asked him if the Chinese were bribing people to say nice things about
China, source did not say anything just nodded his head.
I also talked to source about AmorimA's relationship with the armed forces
and some possible civil-military tension. Source said that the beginning
of AmorimA's bad relationship with the Armed Forces was when Amorim was
foreign minister and the govt sent a bill to congress saying that if there
was any attack to a Brazilian company abroad that could be perceived as an
attack to the Brazilian territory as well. Amorim accused the military
people of influencing the govt to send that bill and went public to accuse
the armed forces. The person who actually told Lula to send that bill to
Congress at the time was the current President Rousseff and the armed
forces had asked Amorim to apologize to them. Since then the relationship
between Amorim has always been bad with the armed forces. Now he is the
minister of defense and the military people do not like it. I asked then
if he thought there was going to be some sort of tension. Source said look
the generals do not want trouble they wanna enjoy their fat salaries and
have a good life, they do not want to confront the govt, the colonels want
to be where the generals are and for that they have to play the game, and
the lower ranks do not know where they stand and just follow the flow.
Plus, society in general does not support the armed forces so there is
nothing the military people can do about.
Source also talked about the Brasiguaios, he said that this is an
increasingly hot issue and he thinks this is the only issue that he sees
Brazil breaking away from its tradition of avoiding hard decisions because
the govt realizes that although they have a good relationship with Lugo,
Lugo is too weak to impose any sort of control. I even joked saying that a
possible conflict between Argentina and the UK over the
Malvinas wouldn A't be an issue Brazil would get involved and he said no.
He said Brazil would give some sort of rhetorical support and some
logistical support as well but not really. Source thinks that the issue of
Brasiguaios would be the main one, which Brazil could break away from its
tradition of avoiding hard decisions.
Source also said that the federal police is increasing the number they
have been monitoring, now they monitor 40 thousand people. He said that
the workerA's party has control over the main guys at the federal police
and use that to monitor their political enemies.