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Re: Insight Request - Turkey-Russia

Released on 2012-03-19 10:00 GMT

Email-ID 1566802
Date 2010-02-04 18:43:58
Reva Bhalla wrote:

Lauren, this is KICKASS. LOVE IT. Thank you so much for your work on
this. Have comments in bold below
On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Lauren Goodrich wrote:

From Reva: Cinar family's contract via ParkTeknic; Russia using this
deal to show they can build reactors? Edge more into European market?
Financing? Construction? Kickbacks?

FROM SOURCE 1: deputy in energy ministry

The nuclear deal between Russia and Turkey is still very new since it
was signed on Jan. 13. Of course many of the details from the previous
nuclear plan deal are being carried over to this deal, though nothing
is set yet for it is the technocrats turn to write up the details. For
now, it is just a political agreement with a few details and many

The preparations for the details to finalize the deal will take
between four to six months and the final signing should be no later
than November. The plan is to have the details all worked out before
President Medvedev goes to Turkey in the fall.

Russia was concerned because of the competition for the other nuclear
plans for the north part of Turkey by Sinopec and Turkish energy
company Akenerji. Russia is not quite clear if that project is still
planned or not.

I wouldn't call this deal any sort of move for Russia into Europe, for
the Belene plant is already under construction in Bulgaria and plans
to pour concrete on the new plant in Belarus will happen before the
deal is finalized on this Turkish plant. ok, as i suspected

The deal will be between the same firms as last time: Inter RAO,
Atomstroiexport, and Park Teknik.

Russia is adamant that it be highly involved in this project on all
levels-financing, construction, engineering, fuel. The way Putin put
it in his meeting was that Russia would provide the loans, provide the
equipment, oversee the local construction companies, take on 20-30
percent of the contracts in Russian firms, provide the nuclear fuel
and reprocess the spent nuclear fuel. wow, that's pretty generous of
Russia, no? seems like they're getting alot in return iwth the
kickbacks listed below.

Taking the spent nuclear fuel is a huge cost that Putin said Russia is
willing to do at a discount. It was one of the aspects that Turkey
really liked in this deal. Russia is also willing to give discounts in
other areas, as well as, give very attractive rates on financing--
though this is all to be worked out over the next 6 months.

The deal wasn't just for the nuclear plant but Turkey is also going to
allow Russia's Inter RAO to build a series of electricity power plant
in the country as well-a very big project and one that Inter RAO has
lobbied for for some time.

Other kickbacks? There are a lot of deals about to go down between
Russia and Turkey. It isn't about just the nuclear plant or the
pipeline, but an overall understanding with a lot of things that could
be considered kickbacks one way or another. Russia is being given the
opportunity for first bid on some Turkish state assets ooh, can you
find out which ones? He completely clammed up on this after I pushed,
so I'm trying other sources to see if I can find out what. about to be
privatized; Russia and Turkey will be nixing their visa regime (an
important symbolic gesture in Moscow's mind); Turkey is also asking
its banks to use more rubles and will be settling some payments using
the ruble; Turkey will continue to putter about any firm commitment to
Nabucco. Russia is pretty happy over these deals.

From Reva: Built by Eni & Calik; Russia to supply the crude?
Financing? Constructing? Russian kickbacks?

FROM SOURCE 1: deputy in energy ministry

The crude for the S-C pipeline will come from both Russia and
Kazakhstan. Turkmenistan would also like to give crude, but they have
not been in on the new set of negotiations.

From what my source has heard, Eni has offered $4 billion for the
"project" this is 1.5 for the pipeline and then 2.5 for electricity
plants that have been earmarked onto this project (a Russia part of
the deal).

As far as the Chalik Group, they were not in on the negotiations and
have not negotiated with Russia one-on-one as far as the S-C pipeline.
Instead, Erdogan negotiated this deal, though it is not as if Chalik
and Erdogan are separate. Their political pacts stretch in deals
across the former Soviet states. Chalik has received much financial
backing from his relationship with Erdogan, who has set state banks to
backing many of Chalik's enterprises. Chalik also has a very close
personal relationship with President Gul. Chalik does not like to do
business personally with Russia when he can help it. Russia also
prefers to do business with Erdogan which represents him essentially.

So as far as the S-C is concerned, it is a Russia-Turkey deal, not a
Chalik-Russia deal. It does not matter to us who Ergodan chooses to
run the line on his side. makes sense. Calik is Erdogan's project

FROM SOURCE 2 - part of foreign affairs thinktank, energy specialist

The S-C pipeline is being renegotiated after Erdogan's trip to Moscow.
Turkey agreed to allow Russia a third of the project, moving the other
two partners of Chalik and Eni to a third each as well. However, Italy
has not yet agreed to this. why is Italy resisting? it seemed to me
that they weren't resisting, but had yet to be consulted. Russia feels
that there will be no problem in getting Italy to agree to it as long
as Turkey sticks to this new deal. This will create a tripartite
consortium for the project.

Both Rosneft and Transneft are interested in not only being part of
the tripartite, but should the consortium stay the 50-50 venture only
between Eni and Chalik, then both Rosneft and Transneft are interested
in being the construction companies in the project instead.

The big competitor for the S-C pipeline, the Burgas-Alexandropoulis
pipeline, has been halted though its already under construction with
Transneft as a partner. The Bulgarian government has been testy
recently, something that Russia doesn't want to put up with Sofia and
is letting it know that there are other options for Russian projects
and crude.

The agreement between Turkey and Russia was not only over the
pipeline, but the so-called kickbacks you mention are in further
agreements coming up in which Russia will take part in privatization
of Turkey's state assets. Russia of course doesn't call it kickbacks,
but "asset swaps."

I have not heard of any trades between deals in Turkmenistan over the
S-C deal.


FROM SOURCE 3 - Turkmen deputy minister

There is a long, deep and personal history between Chalik and
Turkmenistan, much of which does not have to do with Russia. Ahmet
Chalik was a very close personal friend of blessed Turkmenbashi. Ahmet
Chalik advised Turkmenbashi on many foreign matters, set up many tasks
for the leader and even held many illustrious government positions.

It is of my opinion-and I do not wish to speak ill of my departed
leader-that Chalik fed on Turkmenbashi's ego, promising him that he
could help Niyazov spread his influence into Turkey and other
Turkish-speaking lands. It was Chalik who translated the Ruhnama into
Turkish, English and French (Chalik even used the Ruhnama in his
meetings where Turkish media was present in order to promote the book
on behalf of Niyazov). It was Chalik who set up his friends from
Turkey-Polimeks Group-to construct the great gold statues and arches
of dedicated to the leader in Turkmenistan. wow!! love it!!

Chalik was the contractor on the construction projects dedicated to
Turkmenbashi like the National Library, Center for Culture and World
of Turkmen Fairy Tales.

Chalik truly was a slick eel in his dealing with Turkmenbashi, not
that our departed leader knew this. In return Chalik reaped enormous
wealth, deals and business in Turkmenistan-more than I had seen from
anyone else in this country. Chalik was given rights to a series of
textile plants (especially of the highly valued cotton trade from
Turkmenistan, much to Mary's dismay). Chalik's GAP Insaat built
factories-paper, cement, ammonia, fertilizer.

When Chalik was given the S-C pipeline, he swore that it would be only
Turkmen crude to fill the line. Even when Erdogan met with Niyazov in
2003, Erdogan was the political force behind the deal. Erdogan used
Chalik to form his own relationship with Turkmenbashi. Back in 2003,
this was a deal between Turkmenistan and Turkey to not use Russian
crude-something that greatly angered Moscow.

It was Erdogan, Gul and Chalik who stood side-by-side at Niyazov's
funeral representing Turkey.

But everything changed with Turkmenbashi's death. Berdimukhammedov is
not so friendly with Chalik, Erdogan or Gul. He does not trust their
agenda and can not be swayed by flattery or ego-stroking. In
Berdimukhammedov's view, Chalik has too much pushed his Turkish social
and political viewpoints into Turkmenistan. Chalik has attempted to
spread Islamic education and business principles into Turkmenistan. In
short, Chalik is dangerous.

So from what I know, Chalik can not even use Erdogan to strike deals
on his behalf here in Turkmenistan. I have heard of some deals being
struck by the Russians on the Turk's behalf. But the Russians are
striking deals for many of the Turkish firms, not just Chalik. Russia
has helped protect Turkish deals that Berdimukhammedov wanted to close
down from Engin Group, Erdemir, Som Petrol, Ichkale and others.

Lauren Goodrich
Director of Analysis
Senior Eurasia Analyst
T: 512.744.4311
F: 512.744.4334

Lauren Goodrich
Director of Analysis
Senior Eurasia Analyst
T: 512.744.4311
F: 512.744.4334