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MX1 on Marine Force Recon possible involvement in Mexico

Released on 2012-08-09 05:00 GMT

Email-ID 1799622
Date 1970-01-01 01:00:00
I took the initiative to check the RUMINT from Reva on this issue by MX1.
I did not tell him our source of course. Here is his take:

Here is what I can say:

Information about US military involvement in Mexico is provided
only as a need to know basis. The Americans have been adamant
about this, and we agree even more. Therefore, I can confirm that
there is Marine presence, but I don't know if it is MFR.

What is important to understand about SEMAR is the level of
intelligence being shared. We now enjoy NATO-eyes only status
through SEMAR with all Pentagon agencies. We share information
classified up to and including top secret, and it goes both ways.
In fact, we are so careful that the electronic decryption keys that
we use for time-sensitive, electronically transferred information
is a code designed jointly between both countries, so it is unique
even in that sense. The degree of intelligence sharing is

Furthermore, operational coordination and indeed joint excercises
have been conducted, and there are more in the planning stages. We
do indeed have US military presence in Mexico as part of the MI
coordination office (even though they are sometimes under official
cover as DOS, etc...) There are advisors and intelligence
operatives that work on the tactical level with their Mexican

However, based on the assessments that I have seen, most of the
major successes and big busts in the last 6-8 months have been a
result of intelligence shared at EPIC. In fact, what happens there
is trilateral information-sharing with the Colombians as well.
Every time you see a major arrest in Mexico, you can expect to see
another in Colombia very soon thereafter.

As you know, sovereignty reigns supreme, and Mexican public opinion
would be outraged if there were US soldiers engaged in a direct
operational role in Mexico. However, think about this: Given that
the violence continues and that the majority of the Mexican
population believes the strategy has failed, shouldn't the US be
eager to jump onboard also condeming this kind of thing? It would
make sense...UNLESS...the American military advisors and analysts
are fully aware of the real challenges being faced by their Mexican
counterparts. Therefore, I would submit to you that the fact that
the US remains staunchly supportive of our efforts is that the
people high up in the Pentagon are acutely aware of what we are
doing and they participate in the things they care most about.

In practice, we have moved way beyond the original scope of the MI.
The military to military cooperation has yeilded impressive
results. While I know some of the higher-ups in SEDENA are still
hesitant about cooperation with the Americans, SEMAR is a
completely different institutional culture. We are talking about
smarter, more globalized, better trained people that, before
Calderon took office, were eager to particpate in third generation
UN peace enforcement missions. They know what they are doing,
though the same is only true for SEDENA about 60% of the time.

As best as I can tell, any and all work is being done in
conjunction with Mexico, at least from what I know and can infer.
The repercussions on cooperation from a black op that we are not
aware of would be immense, even if the government didn't care.
Therefore, I can't confirm that there are independent US operations
in Mexico of any sort, but I can say that the institutional
mechanisms that would allow for cooperation are most certainly in

Marko Papic

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