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Re: [alpha] INSIGHT - TURKEY/SYRIA - Turkey mobilizing forces for Syria? - ME1461

Released on 2012-03-06 08:00 GMT

Email-ID 191102
Date 2011-11-22 23:47:26
He's right about there being relevant nearby bases. Omar has the details
on those. Question is if we can get any perspective into the extent and
nature of preparations at those bases, if the key units at these bases
have been reinforced and if additional units have been dispatched to
forward positions along the border.


From: Reva Bhalla
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:42:20 -0600 (CST)
To: Alpha List
ReplyTo: Alpha List
Subject: Re: [alpha] INSIGHT - TURKEY/SYRIA - Turkey mobilizing forces for
Syria? - ME1461
can he specify in more detail what military presence is actually at the
border (even if meant more for posturing?)


From: "Emre Dogru"
To: "Alpha List"
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:35:07 PM
Subject: Re: [alpha] INSIGHT - TURKEY/SYRIA -
Turkey mobilizing forces for Syria? - ME1461

Here is what I talked with Faruk:
He says he just got back from an official meeting in Ankara. He didn't
hear of such a deployment. He says Turkey has no plan to intervene in
Syria in a specific time-frame or before a deadline. But Turkey has a
very-well developed contingency plan that may be implemented should the
need arise according to the events that take place in Syria. The plan was
elaborated back in March 2011, and revised in June 2011. Turkey's allies,
including the US, are aware of this plan. The plan includes creating a
buffer-zone in northern Syria (I sent specifics of this plan in another
insight before - pasted below) only if the unrest or civil war in Syria 1)
Creates a massive refugee crisis 2) Threatens the border security 3)
Provides PKK with an opportunity to attack on Turkey more easily. But
Turkey does not have any intention to take an action on Syria unless these
conditions occur. Turkey will not act without US/NATO involvement anyway.
That said, it's very normal to constantly revise the military preparations
near the border. Land forces commander's visit can be considered in this
context. Also, keep in mind that Turkish pilgrims were attacked in Syria
the other day. Turkey may conduct a small-scale exercise near the border
to remind Syria of possible consequences. But Turkey does not need to send
500 tanks to the border or another type of military mobilization to do
this. There are military bases in Gaziantep, Mardin and Antakya that have
enough capacity to take necessary measures, unless an all-out war breaks
out. Turkey has no intention to go war with Syria, unless Syria wages war
on Turkey. But it has all plans and resources ready.
--- earlier insight on bufferzone---
Buffer-zone plan is not new. This was being elaborated by Ankara since
March 2011. Current increase in media reports on this issue is
psychological warfare against Assad. The Turkish army does not have a
psychical preparation (deployment of troops, tanks etc.) near the border
at the moment. Turkey needs to have a "light" UNSC resolution and be able
to interpret it for its own purposes. But the important thing here is to
have unwavering US/European/Arab League support, even if the Russians and
Chinese do not actively support.

Turkey needs to contain and control the PKK activity. That's Turkey's main
concern. The second one is to stop an immigration wave if/when the civil
war breaks out. However, unlike the initial discussions between the US and
Turkey that a buffer-zone should cover as much as 100 kilometers deep
inside Syrian borders, Turkey is able to do this five kilometers at most,
but mainly one kilometer. Depending on the part of the border, five, one
and zero kilometers deep buffer-zone will serve its purpose. This will
also increase Turkey's intelligence capabilities 10-20 kilometers deep in

Syria owns a faction within PKK, but Assad is not actively encouraging
them to attack on Turkey for the moment.


From: "George Friedman"
To: "Alpha List"
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:15:15 AM
Subject: Re: [alpha] INSIGHT - TURKEY/SYRIA - Turkey
mobilizing forces for Syria? - ME1461

And also remember that he may be passing on rumors or whatever. But if the
turkish army is mobilizing it will be known and we can find out.

I just want people remembering that we have a lot of sources in a lot of
places. Going to os is good but not enough.
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From: Reva Bhalla
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:13:01 -0600 (CST)
To: Alpha List
ReplyTo: Alpha List
Subject: Re: [alpha] INSIGHT - TURKEY/SYRIA - Turkey mobilizing forces for
Syria? - ME1461
Emre's on it.

keep in mind the source on this - Iranian mil source that may be trying to
spread rumors and get Turkey to react.


From: "George Friedman"
To: "Alpha List"
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:02:07 PM
Subject: Re: [alpha] INSIGHT - TURKEY/SYRIA - Turkey mobilizing forces
for Syria? - ME1461

500 tanks is about two divisions. They would normally be supported by
about 20,000 troops. Assume that the 2000 is 20000 and what he is saying
is a multidivisional invasion of syria. Mobilizing a deploying a force
that big can't be hidden. It is certainly enough to take northern syria.
But as I said, it would be a new chapter in turkish history and if they do
it, it won't be because they want democracy in turkey.

See if there is any confirmation on this. Go to emre on this.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


From: Colby Martin
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:55:58 -0600 (CST)
ReplyTo: Alpha List
Subject: Re: [alpha] INSIGHT - TURKEY/SYRIA - Turkey mobilizing forces for
Syria? - ME1461
two points. 500 tanks (even if they aren't all actually tanks) is A LOT.
2000 SF is not a lot, and to argue that small a force could hold the
Syrian coast is laughable. At most it is our assessment they could
possibly pester the coast while the real invasion comes from Turkey, but
keep in mind there are already 36,000 Turkish troops already in Cyprus.

On 11/22/11 3:51 PM, Reva Bhalla wrote:

Is there anything related to this in OS so far besides the Turkish army
chief's visit to the border?


From: "Reva Bhalla"
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:54:05 PM
Subject: INSIGHT - TURKEY/SYRIA - Turkey mobilizing forces for Syria? -

SOURCE DESCRIPTION: Iranian military attache in lebanon

** Are there any signs of this happening??

In the course of talking about the Iranian missile base explosion, the
source said that the Turks have readied 500 tanks for a limited invasion
of northern Syria. He also said that the Turks flew to northern Cyprus
a special force contingent of 2,000 for occupying a 20kms stretch of the
Syrian coast.

Colby Martin
Tactical Analyst

Emre Dogru
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