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Re: Fwd: RE: Pls fwd to Fred

Released on 2012-02-27 00:00 GMT

Email-ID 5280688
Date 2011-09-14 15:23:53
Do we trust everyone on the list enough to reveal the source's physical
location? I was going to remove it, just in case...

On 9/14/11 9:19 AM, Fred Burton wrote:

Go, we may want to find that house; note grid coordinates. I would post
in context to the threat.

On 9/14/2011 8:16 AM, Anya Alfano wrote:

Okay to post?

On 9/14/11 9:15 AM, Fred Burton wrote:

Good skinny. This is what is defined as a credible source. Not
some windbag Paki academic belching and passing gas.

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: RE: Pls fwd to Fred
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:12:30 -0400
From: James F. Smith
To: Fred Burton


Last week of August I was at a house here (32DEG 52.552'N / 13DEG
8.512'E) owned by a man last name Hakin (like the MOD Hakin but not
the same man).

After midnight we recv'd ph call from anonymous caller telling him
to get ready for a vehicle to come by to pick him up and take him to
a pos so he could pickup some money.

We then called a contact at MOD and ran it by them, they knew of the
ruse somehow and said it was a trap aimed at the real Hakin (MOD
head) and that we should vacate asap.

We grabbed weapons, go-bag and moved out of the house on foot down
the streets (can't drive this area due to roadblocks at every
corner) to a safe(r) house. I happened to be solo that night. I
moved him to the top of the house (3rd deck), barricaded the door on
ground and the access to the roof, then put him down and maintained
overwatch of the street below from the roof til dawn.

This happens frequently here. Definite threat to NTC and lower level
brigade leadership as well.

From: Fred Burton []
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:06 AM
To: James F. Smith
Subject: Re: Pls fwd to Fred

Credible in your eyes?

On 9/14/2011 8:02 AM, James F. Smith wrote:

Rgr//thank you.

From: Fred Burton []
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:49 AM
To: James F. Smith
Subject: Re: Pls fwd to Fred

Libyan source warns of possible assassination operations against NTC

Excerpt from report by Saudi-owned leading pan-Arab daily Al-Sharq
al-Awsat website on 14 September

[Report by Khalid Mahmud in Cairo: "Libya: Revolutionaries'
Disagreements Impede Search for Fugitive Al-Qadhafi"]

The efforts to arrest the fugitive Libyan Colonel Mu'ammar
al-Qadhafi, who is still somewhere unknown inside Libyan
territories, receded relatively yesterday as the revolutionaries and
the Transitional National Council [NTC] became preoccupied with
disagreements that escalated and surfaced for the first time with
Islamic political groups that opened fire early at the NTC at an
unexpected end of the honeymoon which did not last long between the
two sides.

While NTC Chairman Counsellor Mustafa Abd-al-Jalil was issuing from
Martyrs Square in the Libyan capital Tripoli messages to assure the
Western coalition backing the revolutionaries that he would not
allow any extremist ideology, whether from the right or the left,
Ali al-Salabi, the prominent leader in the Muslim Brotherhood [MB]
group, came out with unprecedented violent and sharp criticisms of
Dr Mahmud Jibril, chairman of the NTC's Executive Bureau, which
reached the point of demanding his resignation.

These developments prompted a high-level official in the NTC to warn
of possible assassinations against some NTC members, particularly in
view of the proliferation of weapons all over the country. This
official, who asked to remain unnamed, said by telephone from
Tripoli "we fear that the political clash will lead to a military
one. There are fears of assassination operations like that of martyr
Major General Abd-al-Fattah Yunus", the former commander of the
revolutionaries forces who was assassinated in mysterious
circumstances by gunmen believed to be Islamists in Benghazi at the
end of July. [Passage omitted on Abd-al-Jalil's speech, Al-Salabi's

In view of this unexpected attack by Al-Salabi, sources close to
Jibril disclosed to Al-Sharq al-Awsat that Jibril refused to give
the MB more than one ministerial portfolio in the government he
intends to form from about 20 ministers. The sources said the MB
sought in the past to persuade Jibril to give it five ministerial
portfolios, among them the awqaf, information, and interior
ministries, but he refused from the premise that this would put the
country within the framework of a quota government and not a
government of technocrats that carries out its responsibilities
during the transitional period of 18 months.

Libyan activists and politicians told Al-Sharq al-Awsat yesterday
that they called for a march that was supposed to be staged last
night from outside Al-Mahari Hotel in Tripoli to denounce
Al-Salabi's statements as part of similar demonstrations aimed at
stressing that there is a public opinion against such views.

A NTC official told Al-Sharq al-Awsat the NTC is being subjected to
what he called "a campaign of distortion" by some political trends
which believe it threatens their interests and endeavours to occupy
leading posts in the next government. The official, who asked to
remain unnamed, added "this is an overt and public blackmail
campaign. We will not allow the NTC and its government to be dragged
to these dirty tricks. We still have before us momentous and very
grave tasks and what is happening is mere political drivel whose
time has not yet come."

Al-Sharq al-Awsat has learned that Dr Jibril is coming under
political pressures from the armed groups and revolutionaries to
give them ministerial posts too. An official connected to the
upcoming government told this newspaper: "Yes, he (Jibril) is coming
under pressures but refuses to yield to them. His task as he sees it
is to form a national government based on the principle of
competence and professionalism before any other considerations."

But a NTC member said the formation of the new government might not
be easy because it would not have everybody's support and pointed
out that all the political forces are now aspiring to play a public
political role and obtain the price for their participation in or
backing for the Libyan people's uprising against Al-Qadhafi.

Amidst these political disagreements which prove that the honeymoon
between the Islamists and NTC has ended prematurely, the efforts to
locate the whereabouts of the fugitive Col. Al-Qadhafi, his sons,
and his senior military and security aides have slowed down at a
time when the revolutionaries are fighting fierce battles with the
colonel's remnant forces to retake his last strongholds in Sirte and
Bani Walid.

A security official in the special unit hunting Al-Qadhafi said the
efforts exerted to pinpoint his whereabouts since his escape from
Tripoli on 21 August were mostly unsuccessful. Speaking by telephone
from Tripoli on condition of remaining anonymous, the official added
"we have conflicting information. No one has anything definite about
his (Al-Qadhafi's) hideout. We are still hoping to reach him as
quickly as possible." He pointed out that the reason for the delay
in forming the new government under Dr Jibril has to do with
Al-Qadhafi's arrest or killing, adding "we want the announcement of
the government to be done with the announcement with the regime's
official and final downfall and this cannot be done if we do not
arrest Al-Qadhafi or kill him if he refused to surrender."

In the field, the revolutionaries appeared yesterday to be on the
verge of attacking the city of Bani Walid where forces loyal to
Al-Qadhafi are entrenched amidst the large-scale exodus of the
city's citizens who described the living conditions inside it as
miserable because of the communications and electricity stoppages.
The revolutionaries stopped their advance to resolve the city's fate
for some time so as to enable these citizens to escape somewhere far
from the fighting while Al-Qadhafi's forces reinforced their
military positions inside the city and made rooftops the pads for
missile launchers, according to remarks by military sources to the
revolutionaries' "Libya al-Ahrar" channel.

Violent clashes erupted between the revolutionaries and the
regiments in the streets of Sirte, Al-Qadhafi's birthplace, as
reports circulated that his son Al-Mu'tasim, who is the national
security adviser, is in the city. The revolutionaries succeeded in
forcing Al-Qadhafi's forces to retreat towards Harawah which is
situated 70 km east of Sirte before advancing for 50 km from the
west to announce also that they had reached the outskirts of Brak
al-Shati which is only 70 km from Sabha.

Source: Al-Sharq al-Awsat website, London, in Arabic 14 Sep 11

BBC Mon ME1 MEPol vs

On 9/12/2011 1:51 PM, James F. Smith wrote:

No, mainly tac ground training and psd for key figures.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2011, at 14:28, "Fred Burton" > wrote:

Tactical and intel support too?

On 9/12/2011 10:49 AM, James F. Smith wrote:

Certainly are. They need it. At the request of a usg committee and the rebs. Been there since no-fly.


Sent by mobile device


From: Fred Burton <>

To: James F. Smith

Sent: Mon Sep 12 11:21:44 2011

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Pls fwd to Fred

Interesting. You guys lending the opposition a hand? I would hope so.

On 9/12/2011 9:59 AM, James F. Smith wrote:

I just got back and am heading back either this week or next. Still working logs on travel.


Sent by mobile device


From: Fred Burton <>

To: James F. Smith

Sent: Mon Sep 12 10:52:34 2011

Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Pls fwd to Fred

Hello James, Very interesting and thorough report. Are you heading into Libya? Thanks, Fred



I tried sending this via Yahoo, but it was kicked back by your servers.

Let me know if you get this. I'm going back to the AO next week.

Any RFI's just let me know.

Yes, we have a stratfor acct under this email address.

James Smith


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